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Donna, I don't know if you realize it or not, but PFM is dying. There seems to be only two of us posting anymore, Breeziestroke and myself.

Many people have e-mailed you and never get an answer in return, myself included.

Other posts that are made, seem to be about orders for panties that aren't recieved.

You can't just keep reading posts or e-mails and ignoring them.

I said I would go down with the ship, but I'm wondering if the ship hasn't already sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

Ther are many, many web sites dealing with men wearing panties and I wonder how many members we have lost to them.

The phoenix rose from the ashes, but I'm afraid that PFM has fallen back into the fire.

Unless something drastic happens, I'm afraid we are going to have to close the lid on the coffin and bury PFM.

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I truely HOPE NOT !!

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I hear you pusspuss.

I assumed that since Donna had finally gotten the website up and running again, that everything was humming along nicely.
I do hope that your fears are not true.
I was on the verge of buying some new panties from Donna but I am concerned that things may not go right.
I prefer to buy panties from Donna. I find the styles she offers are much more to my liking and are of superior quality.
I have bought panties from manties.net and, although I like the style, I find them rather flimsy.
Donna's panties are a little more pricey but you always pay more for quality.

I do hope Donna will answer our concerns because she is a very nice person and I would like to continue my relationship with her. I always felt that she is committed to her "boys" and only wants the best for them.




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tina_panties wrote:

I hear you pusspuss.

I assumed that since Donna had finally gotten the website up and running again, that everything was humming along nicely.
I do hope that your fears are not true.
I was on the verge of buying some new panties from Donna but I am concerned that things may not go right.
I prefer to buy panties from Donna. I find the styles she offers are much more to my liking and are of superior quality.
I have bought panties from manties.net and, although I like the style, I find them rather flimsy.
Donna's panties are a little more pricey but you always pay more for quality.

I do hope Donna will answer our concerns because she is a very nice person and I would like to continue my relationship with her. I always felt that she is committed to her "boys" and only wants the best for them.



 Tina . . . about Manties . . . if you know Hanes Her Way Nylon Elegance Full Briefs, Manties look identical to Hanes. All they do is dye them and then sew on their decorations. I guess that there's some fairly gullible pantiephreaks out there. I know about this stuff, and I suppose that the most of the rest of you do, too.

Yes, those stretch lace elastics are very prone to unraveling, disintegration--I may be just speaking for myself--but we need rugged and durable entire elastics, that can outlast the fabric that they're intended to hold onto the body. It's better to use bands of conventional lace, then sew them into shirring, gathers, onto the elastics, that will expand along with the elastics and fabric. I think the lace looks prettier anyway, when it's wavy, when not fully stretched.



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The Old Forum appears to be "active" once again.

However, it's "impossible" for me to Login, using my Old Breeziestroke Login Info.

Might many of us want to still use the Old Forum?

It now appears that perhaps Donna may have turned over the reins of PFM to others, that while they understand, near perfectly, what PFM's Mission is all about, they have yet to form the close relationship that Donna enjoyed with the PFM Membership.

I am encouraged by the fact, that after Six Months, PFM finally fulfilled an order that I'd placed back then, and I'm happy with that. So, I don't really know if Donna did that, or, someone else. I will additionally see how stuff here plays out, before I make a Contribution towards PFM Maintenance.

But, if they still want to encourage us to use the Old Forum, I hope that they will please provide us with the Login Reset Info,



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If you finally received your order after six months Breezie then maybe there is still hope for an order I placed 6 months ago as well. I won't hold my breath but I certainly won't be ordering any more panties from Donna until...

1. I receive my order.

2. Donna answers my many e-mails to her.

I have resorted to buying my panties from manties.net and thesissystore.com and local dollar stores.

I have no idea what has happened to Donna this year.




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I paid Donna January 15, 2012 with PayPal for two pair of custom panties. It's now October 12, 2012 and after many emails of promises..... I'm still waiting for my panties.



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This primarily is for you, Tina, and for you, "Excite", though the rest of you may find this informative.

It very much looks to me that Donna has now taken a backseat in the running of the PFM/FullMoon Enterprises Empire. She may even not be involved, any longer. Even though an order of mine was finally fulfilled after Six Months, in addition, a lot of the features of all the PFM Sites seem to be now lacking in Donna's familiar touches, and it's also been a very, very long time since she's dropped on in, on this Forum. If . . . she does make an appearance, I then may be motivated to make a monetary contribution, going towards the maintenance and improvements to the Sites.

I believe that you can find your pantie/lingerie needs, just as excitably fulfilled, if you frequent eBay, and also go to the vast plethora of other online retailers, ranging from Her/HisRooms, through JCPenney, on to Neiman Marcus, you know, outfits that "normally" would be selling these wares to authentically female clientele in more "sexually repressive" social climates. With British Online Retailers, the emphasis may be on Cotton products, rather than Nylon Tricot products, but for me, that's okay, since great Cottons, and Cot/Poly Blends do a nice job with my winkie as well. There are vast oceans of alternatives that await us all, if Donna can no longer cum through for us.

I even take exceptionally soft dude's Cotton, and Cotton blended with other stuff--TW's--and convert those into panties!!

If we continue to send Donna positive emails, she may eventually respond, though currently, that's not the case. Hostile emails could even drive her further away, and the rest of the "New Team" at PFM/FME, might decide to shut all of this down, forever, for keeps.



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Breeziestroke wrote:

This primarily is for you, Tina, and for you, "Excite", though the rest of you may find this informative.

It very much looks to me that Donna has now taken a backseat in the running of the PFM/FullMoon Enterprises Empire. She may even not be involved, any longer. Even though an order of mine was finally fulfilled after Six Months, in addition, a lot of the features of all the PFM Sites seem to be now lacking in Donna's familiar touches, and it's also been a very, very long time since she's dropped on in, on this Forum. If . . . she does make an appearance, I then may be motivated to make a monetary contribution, going towards the maintenance and improvements to the Sites.

I believe that you can find your pantie/lingerie needs, just as excitably fulfilled, if you frequent eBay, and also go to the vast plethora of other online retailers, ranging from Her/HisRooms, through JCPenney, on to Neiman Marcus, you know, outfits that "normally" would be selling these wares to authentically female clientele in more "sexually repressive" social climates. With British Online Retailers, the emphasis may be on Cotton products, rather than Nylon Tricot products, but for me, that's okay, since great Cottons, and Cot/Poly Blends do a nice job with my winkie as well. There are vast oceans of alternatives that await us all, if Donna can no longer cum through for us.

I even take exceptionally soft dude's Cotton, and Cotton blended with other stuff--TW's--and convert those into panties!!

If we continue to send Donna positive emails, she may eventually respond, though currently, that's not the case. Hostile emails could even drive her further away, and the rest of the "New Team" at PFM/FME, might decide to shut all of this down, forever, for keeps. 

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 Well put! PFM needs a spark to ignite it's flame once more. It seems that when Ross left, the down hill slide commenced.

I notice that a few hundred persons view PFM almost daily but the number of contributors, not moniterily, can be counted Mrs. Fist and her five daughters. It takes more then coin of the realm to make a successful site. Quite frankly my interest is waning.  

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She still has my interest since she still has my money. She tells me I can trust her.



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She still has my interest since she still has my money. She tells me I can trust her.


 Excite, how recent was her last communication with you?

As I've told my tale before, an order that I'd placed--now going on Seven months ago--"spontaneously" appeared in my snail-mail box in early September. No email notices immediately before delivery, nothing. Encouraged by that, I emailed Donna, some encouraging words to her of my own, with no reply yet, from her.

The panties that I'd ordered, by the way, are some awesome heavy-gauge, yet extremely fluffie to the touch, full-brief grannies made out of a nylon/lycra microfibre called "Veniccia", by Donna. They've spiced up some of my play times, to be sure.

I would now very much like to hear from the rest of you, please, those that ordered stuff quite a while back, and have luckily and finally received their orders, after a long, long wait. Especially tell us, when you placed your order(s), and, when you finally received them; and, were they complete and what you wanted?



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Her last email to me was Sept 13, 2012. I had explained how my order was celebrating it's 8th month anniversary. Now it's been 9 months.



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Her last email to me was Sept 13, 2012. I had explained how my order was celebrating it's 8th month anniversary. Now it's been 9 months.


 September 13? Around that same time frame, I'd sent her lots of emails, none answered.



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Her last email to me was Sept 13, 2012. I had explained how my order was celebrating it's 8th month anniversary. Now it's been 9 months.


 September 13? Around that same time frame, I'd sent her lots of emails, none answered.


 So far the only e-mails that have arrived from Donna are one thanking memners for remembering her birthday and her Halloween message. It seems the only e-mails lately concern her pantie business. I do hope PFM is not morphing into one of the main sites for selling her panties. I being of a larger size cannot buy from Donna. Also I prefer the female version of panties without the added room in front and not so fancy a pantie. I would like to see PFM get back into it's original  form as a forum for men who wear panties. The name change to 'Underwear Lady" suggests just the opposite. I pre fer that the name stays at Panties for Men. I am seriously considering dropping out of PFM as I am getting moore and more discouraged. For one thing the change in the picture gallerys. I definitely won't pay to look at people in panties. So unless Donna stops the direction PFM is headed, I will regretabl have to say 'Adios'



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yes I have had fears for awhile. Just kind of feel like if you claim it is so...so I try not to claim failure.  God knows I've given it my all to keep things together for you guys.



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I truly hope not either.  I'm doing my best.  Tried my best.

You all mean so much to me.



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Tina,

I am committed to you guys.  There has been a lot happening,happened.  Most of it has been out of my control.  But, hey when life hands you lemons...make lemonade.

Working on making it all work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Donna,

You have my money, I just want my panties.


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What make or style of pantie is your fairly transparent that you have on Tina  & excite? Awaiting answer  ! I also have been  waitimg for 2 combined orders since  (been so long can't remember also what was in order) !!  When clickiing on opened account I get  " You   404’d it. Gnarly, dude. "  What in the Hell does this mean ? I asked Customer Service with no reply !!! This was done some time ago. I also hope that PFM is not on it's  bare bottom (a pun son)disbelief   tineetommi



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May be it's 'Breezistroke that has the almost transparent HINEY !!!



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May be it's 'Breezistroke that has the almost transparent HINEY !!!


 Nope, 'tain't me--though it sure looks like 'twould be a whole lotta fun to be her . . . oh, well.

She's a babe/model at the SheerioDotCom Website: http://www.sheerio.com/ , and I betcha she's wearing vintage/antique Vanity Fair Diaphaniques, or, possibly, the more recent VF Classics (Style #'s: 15011/15811--Plus), or VF Lace Nouveaus.



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I just joined this community. So I am not the only one, my November order was delivered last week, to my surprise.

Is there any improvement to be expected or should I not bother and get my undrwear somewhere else?



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I just joined this community. So I am not the only one, my November order was delivered last week, to my surprise.

Is there any improvement to be expected or should I not bother and get my undrwear somewhere else?


 "Dee-Ell"; while this is intended for you, I hope that Donna's reading this, as well. Donna does have outstanding creations to offer, and she's usually on target for addressing the varied tastes amongst the Pantiephreak Community. What may shake the tree of one Pantiephreak, may not necessarily jangle the tree of another, if you know what I mean. If you've just joined us, Dee-Ell, in the past 3, 4 Years or so, Donna has endured some very crushing crises, some of which have threatened to silence our Community, among other dangers. We do operate under a cloud, of varying darknesses. So, it's fair to say that you may very well have to wait a very long time for your pretties to arrive, as Donna does presently have quite a lot on her plate, crisis-wise. But, your long wait, will be well worth it.

If you do have concerns about the real-time status of your monies/finances/capital, to Donna, I suggest these: 1) Use PayPal as a Prime Billing/Collection/Purchase Tool. 2) Bill at Exact Moment of Sale. 3) Explain any possible delays to the Customer then, giving them an opportunity to back out, as their needs be. Completely advise them, Donna, of the lag time, between Actual Billing, and, the commencement of Real-Time Actual Execution/Production of their pretties. 4) After that deadline has passed, the Customer will have to accept things as they stand. 5) Yet, Donna, perhaps you ought to still advise the Customer, how long production will take, and, perhaps even use a Delivery Method of the Customer's choosing. What I'm saying, is that communication (backed by appropriate action) is the key to success.

On your myriad Sites, Donna, there ought to be Sections/Page Links then, that offer the Customer a chance for Testimonials/Critiques, and that ought to include the Level and Quality of Service offered. And, it would be helpful for the Individual Pages, of any given Product, to have Customer Reviews.

Folks?? Just don't give into juvenile and cowardly flame wars, then, if you use these possible Links. We need intelligent and reasoned prose and Criteria Assessements there, if we want PFM/FME/Underware Lady to become a success; and it certainly does deserve it, as our Community's outlets for commerce and personal self-expression, Internet-wise, still remains quite limited.



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Following from my last Post in this Thread, I really do believe that Donna ought to use eBay, as well, as an efficient and effective alternative method, of commercial expression.

I've been using eBay, now, for about Twelve years, and it's evolved for me, as a very user-friendly Interface for me to amass my voluminous collection of pretties. In the past 5, 6 Years or so, they have entered into a direct partnership with PayPal, that has made any other possible payment methods obsolete, ineffective, inefficient, inconvenient, and irrelevant. There's all levels and kinds of Personal Security Protections offered for both Customer/Client, and Merchant/Seller. We all will remain as anonymous as we want.

For various certain Premium Products offered--you, Donna will do the defining, there--those ought to be offered on a Bid-Only Basis. Some of us occasionally do enjoy the additional adrenaline charge of an out-and-out Bidding War on eBay.

And, you can offer the rest of your wares on a Buy-It-Now Basis, offering the Customer the opportunity to define her/his choices for Lot Size, Colors, Sizes, and-or Ornamentations.

While you, Donna, would indeed encounter commercial rivals at the eBay Venue, it could also strengthen the influence that Our Community exercises any and every where, through the channel/medium of eBay. I encourage all of you to take some long cruising sessions throughout eBay, and you will see what I mean, as a lot of Merchants there, do state in their Product Descriptions, that they are guy-friendly as well, in the sale of lingerie. They do understand, and there's nothing "wrong" with our money. Money is money, plain and simple.



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Following from my last Post in this Thread, I really do believe that Donna ought to use eBay, as well, as an efficient and effective alternative method, of commercial expression.

I've been using eBay, now, for about Twelve years, and it's evolved for me, as a very user-friendly Interface for me to amass my voluminous collection of pretties. In the past 5, 6 Years or so, they have entered into a direct partnership with PayPal, that has made any other possible payment methods obsolete, ineffective, inefficient, inconvenient, and irrelevant. There's all levels and kinds of Personal Security Protections offered for both Customer/Client, and Merchant/Seller. We all will remain as anonymous as we want.

For various certain Premium Products offered--you, Donna will do the defining, there--those ought to be offered on a Bid-Only Basis. Some of us occasionally do enjoy the additional adrenaline charge of an out-and-out Bidding War on eBay.

And, you can offer the rest of your wares on a Buy-It-Now Basis, offering the Customer the opportunity to define her/his choices for Lot Size, Colors, Sizes, and-or Ornamentations.

While you, Donna, would indeed encounter commercial rivals at the eBay Venue, it could also strengthen the influence that Our Community exercises any and every where, through the channel/medium of eBay. I encourage all of you to take some long cruising sessions throughout eBay, and you will see what I mean, as a lot of Merchants there, do state in their Product Descriptions, that they are guy-friendly as well, in the sale of lingerie. They do understand, and there's nothing "wrong" with our money. Money is money, plain and simple.


 Brezze, Donna has used e-bay in the past. I'm not sure if she put up items for bid. She could start with a minimum bid and the possibilty of getting higher amounts than she actually wanted may happen. I would strongly suggest that the minimum bid start at the cost of materials.



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Hey gang, Ross here, the old PFMboss. I just happened to want to take a look-see if anything was still going on at PFM. I am sadened that Donna has had so much heart ache and health issues since my departure. I love Donna, I love PFM and of course I love panties. Although I am happily retired down here in beautiful, peaceful, FREE Mexico ..... I still think often of all of you. It's great to see Breezestroke and Pusspuss still here. You guys have definatly stuck by through thick and thin. Since my divorse, I no longer have the resourses to help PFM financialy, nor the energy to devote the time to it I once did, but I'd sure like to do what little I can to help revive it. What ideas might you guys have as to what "baby" steps need to be taken first?



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Hey gang, Ross here, the old PFMboss. I just happened to want to take a look-see if anything was still going on at PFM. I am sadened that Donna has had so much heart ache and health issues since my departure. I love Donna, I love PFM and of course I love panties. Although I am happily retired down here in beautiful, peaceful, FREE Mexico ..... I still think often of all of you. It's great to see Breezestroke and Pusspuss still here. You guys have definatly stuck by through thick and thin. Since my divorse, I no longer have the resourses to help PFM financialy, nor the energy to devote the time to it I once did, but I'd sure like to do what little I can to help revive it. What ideas might you guys have as to what "baby" steps need to be taken first?


 Well . . . helll-lllooo Ross!!!! (Screamed out like our old-time Bay Area TV weatherman, Lloyd Lindsay Young!) Welcum back to the site!!

I'd suggested to Donna, that if the business of running any and all PFM-/FME-type websites--under current conditions--is interfering with the simple pleasure, and act, of producing sweet panties 'n' such, to sell, then she ought to concentrate her efforts on eBay, providing that cuts out Overhead, such as Web-Hosting Fees; evaluating Website graphics and design; and, conferring with, and, paying a Webmaster/Webmistress. I am however, unsure of what kind of written copy, that eBay currently would permit to be displayed in the Listings, because her writing is uniquely enticing, part of the Sales Package. I'm also unsure if eBay currently allows Cross-Linking to "private" Sites, and alternatively commercial Sites, and, if they discourage their Sellers from having Internet-Based businesses beyond the eBay purview, selling the same category/ies of merchandise. I believe these all could be reasons that some former eBay Merchants/Sellers, have defected to Etsy. I dunno.

That would discourage Donna from maintaining TUL/PFM/FME, as a commercial Site. That said, it may then be simpler to fold this Forum directly into TUL, with TUL being more purely devoted to Pix--almost exclusively. The softwear on this Forum is often too buggy, to allow me to upload pieces of my singular collection of JPEGS directly right here, ennywhoo.

Perhaps you might have been acquainted with Web-Talent, other than Jason? Because, it seemed, that "back in the day", not only was Jason a Gandalf of the Web, he also fully understood exactly what the mission/mission statement of FME was. If that's all that's required in that aspect, I then believe all that's required, is just a "Letter of Introduction", to get it all rolling, again--but--then again, money/salary could be a sticking point. I dunno.

Well, I'm just about tapped-out, Ross, and I haven't forgot about writing you in another forum; I am currently at want to find something intelligent to say to you, there.



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Thanx Breezi for tou reply--- I will check out thet website and see if I can round up that gorgeous pabty ! I am considerly older than 58 !!   tinee



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Just a quick note. Dlhoek, is that a pic of your ass in a pair of Donnas panties? It looks SOOOOO sexy!!!! If so, for that reason alone, always buy from Donna.



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Tinee Tommi,

Email me...pinupprissies@aol.com

We will get things sorted out.  I'm not sure what that message is or where it's coming from.  Please let know so I can get it fixed.

Talk with you soon

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Actually I think the website looks freaking great and the forum seems pretty active. As for the panties themselves, admittedly I haven't put an order in yet but I'm glad we seem to be going through a frills revival. I know a bunch of guys here balk at the term 'sissy' but I just love the pink, frilly, billowy undies that Donna designs

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Thank you so much!  I think pink billowy panties with lots of frillies are beautiful and looks incredible on.  A smooth delicate plain brief looks just as good...hehe.



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Thank you so much!  I think pink billowy panties with lots of frillies are beautiful and looks incredible on.  A smooth delicate plain brief looks just as good...hehe.


 I love the billowy part--it's all the scratchy ornamentation I can do without. The legs can have a little scrim of lace about 'em, and that's it. A grand fabric--by itself--is what sets Winkie ablaze.



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I used to be a member back when this was new. Donna I order from you before to. But here is the thing. I forgot what my account name was. Well if your still making I be willing to buy. I still have some of your products. Hippie



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Just got word of a new message here. Frankly, it would be kinda cool if a few of the old "PantyBoys" could start chatting again. Anyway.... no, I have no idea what happened to Donna, nor all my industrial sewing equipment, office supplies, computers, thousands of dollars worth of fabric and notions and the $18,000 in bills she owed. Other than that, I'm still VERY happily retired in Baja Mexico, land of the FREE. If your of that age, I suggest checking it out. "No Bad Days" here.



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