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What if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor, would the United States have gotten into the war in time to prevent Germany winning WWII? confuse.gif



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What if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor, would the United States have gotten into the war in time to prevent Germany winning WWII? confuse.gif


 It was a fluke, however tragic, that Japan's attack upon us that balmy late autumn morn succeeded, at that critical juncture in time. Our propensity to become supremely provoked, had somehow and luckily, just then reached its richest ripeness. If Tokyo was better coordinated, strategically with Berlin, they would not have attacked, preferring instead to accelerate the acquisition of more men, materiel, ordnance, and weapons platforms, and, the strategic positioning of critical mobile attack bases. They also would have wisely petitioned Hitler, to revive the German Kriegsmarine Pacific Squadron of bygone days, to provide mutual assistance for coordinated wholesale invasions of the West Coast, together with an East Coast invasion, with strategic saturation bombing of our key West and East coast cities, together--Civilian Centers, Industrial Centers, Infrastructure with Power and Communications Production, and Transportation Arteries. Also, an excellent time of year, to do all of this, would have been in the mid to late Autumn, when our Wildlands/Wilderness would be crackling dry, so that they could also launch selective incendiary attacks upon our Forests.

Our national mood was that of extreme isolationism, along with burgeoning pro-Nazi "Voelkisch" movements, including the Ku Klux Klan, both in North and South America. For the most part, Berlin ignored these, along with alliances with subsets of the disgruntled Irish communities--read Irish Republican Army.

Hitler could have played it a lot smarter, by extending his resources, those of Goebbels' Propaganda Ministry, to spread disinformation, re-information, here in the Americas, North, Central, and South, and also, those of Himmlers' SS, who would have provided Logistical and Intelligence support, to the Voelkisch/Isolationist (Charles Lindberg, anyone??) Fifth-Columnists then extant in our lands. Then, certainly by the early 1950's, domination by the Reich, of North, Central, and South America, would be consolidated and accomplished.

He used these self-same resources to brilliant effect, in Czeckoslovakia, Austria, Alsace-Lorraine, the Balkans, and the Middle-East, before the Polish Invasion, without firing a shot.

We do owe a lot to those of our globally civic-minded fellow citizens, who volunteered early, at the invasion of Poland. These of our fellow citizens volunteered and served, with the Royal Navies, the Royal Marine Corps'es, the Royal Armies, and, the Royal Air Forces of Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand--and there were similar efforts of men like Pappy Boyington, who helped out the Chinese Nationalist Air Force, before he became that lovable rebel in our Marine Corps Flying Service. Also, a few helped out in the underground resistance movements, such as the French Maquis. These men brought back the story of what was actually really happening, inside the Third Reich and the Police-Martial State of Imperial Japan.

Winston Churchill's message of alarm, along with England's back-to-the-wall homefront battle, also kept just enough of our key socio-cultural and political segments aware, as well.



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pusspuss wrote:

What if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor, would the United States have gotten into the war in time to prevent Germany winning WWII? confuse.gif


 It was a fluke, however tragic, that Japan's attack upon us that balmy late autumn morn succeeded, at that critical juncture in time. Our propensity to become supremely provoked, had somehow and luckily, just then reached its richest ripeness. If Tokyo was better coordinated, strategically with Berlin, they would not have attacked, preferring instead to accelerate the acquisition of more men, materiel, ordnance, and weapons platforms, and, the strategic positioning of critical mobile attack bases. They also would have wisely petitioned Hitler, to revive the German Kriegsmarine Pacific Squadron of bygone days, to provide mutual assistance for coordinated wholesale invasions of the West Coast, together with an East Coast invasion, with strategic saturation bombing of our key West and East coast cities, together--Civilian Centers, Industrial Centers, Infrastructure with Power and Communications Production, and Transportation Arteries. Also, an excellent time of year, to do all of this, would have been in the mid to late Autumn, when our Wildlands/Wilderness would be crackling dry, so that they could also launch selective incendiary attacks upon our Forests.

Our national mood was that of extreme isolationism, along with burgeoning pro-Nazi "Voelkisch" movements, including the Ku Klux Klan, both in North and South America. For the most part, Berlin ignored these, along with alliances with subsets of the disgruntled Irish communities--read Irish Republican Army.

Hitler could have played it a lot smarter, by extending his resources, those of Goebbels' Propaganda Ministry, to spread disinformation, re-information, here in the Americas, North, Central, and South, and also, those of Himmlers' SS, who would have provided Logistical and Intelligence support, to the Voelkisch/Isolationist (Charles Lindberg, anyone??) Fifth-Columnists then extant in our lands. Then, certainly by the early 1950's, domination by the Reich, of North, Central, and South America, would be consolidated and accomplished.

He used these self-same resources to brilliant effect, in Czeckoslovakia, Austria, Alsace-Lorraine, the Balkans, and the Middle-East, before the Polish Invasion, without firing a shot.

We do owe a lot to those of our globally civic-minded fellow citizens, who volunteered early, at the invasion of Poland. These of our fellow citizens volunteered and served, with the Royal Navies, the Royal Marine Corps'es, the Royal Armies, and, the Royal Air Forces of Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand--and there were similar efforts of men like Pappy Boyington, who helped out the Chinese Nationalist Air Force, before he became that lovable rebel in our Marine Corps Flying Service. Also, a few helped out in the underground resistance movements, such as the French Maquis. These men brought back the story of what was actually really happening, inside the Third Reich and the Police-Martial State of Imperial Japan.

Winston Churchill's message of alarm, along with England's back-to-the-wall homefront battle, also kept just enough of our key socio-cultural and political segments aware, as well.


Is it possible that The United States was at that time respectful of God and religions. Was God's hand in all of this?  Just something to think about. The attitudes of the time was not to enter a war that was Europes problem. Japan turned the tide and got Americans angry. I firmly believe that if Japan had not bombed Pearl Harbor, which by the way, Hawaii was a territory of the USA, the Swaztika would be flying over the Capiol and the White House today. Perhaps we should re-think the ideas of not getting involved in other countries affairs. We have to stop the Muslim invasion before it gets a stronhold on our country. I fear that it might already be too late.



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